Dec 22, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04
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#21
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Thanks to all the guru [mods]
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Well..this is ganna get closed
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Dec 22, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#22
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Apartment#306
Guild: Rhedd Asylum
Profession: Me/
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Yeah, it will be closed eventually.
But in future everyone. Why aren't you actually going to support and submitting bug reports and such? It takes longer and you have to fill out your account info, but at least it gets read.
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Dec 23, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15
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#23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...
Guild: Dark Alley [dR]
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IT was funnier running into QQ in RA and them having all 4 of them on the same team
and yes there are pics on their forums as well as proof of it happening
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Dec 23, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18
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#24
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by shardfenix
But if I play at home districts, I get paired up with 3 idiots and lose 90% of the time.
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obviously they arent IDIOTS if they beat you and....its RANDOM arena...shit happens
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Dec 24, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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#25
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Delaware, USA
Guild: Error Seven Operators [Call]
Profession: W/
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Anet has done all that really matters to fix it. They set it up so that most games start at 30-second intervals, so join-spiking isn't as effective. If (random number) 3,000 games are starting every 30 seconds, that's less of a chance that a join spike will occur than with another game starting 15 seconds after one has finished.
It's fairly difficult to join spike successfully because of this, and really, who cares that much about it? RA is casual PvP to test things out, get used to playing something, etc. It's not supposed to be serious, so balance problems can be overlooked. Take for example the Dwayna and Grenth sides in snowball fights. To most, Dwayna is clearly superior, but since it's supposed to be fun, not serious, who cares?
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Dec 24, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43
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#26
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Jungle Guide
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This bug needs to be fixed. And ID and AD teams sometimes seem to mix once inside, i.e. I played in ID today ran into one team, owned, got fed up, went to AD, entered, 2 rounds later played the SAME TEAM who had set up a definitive build and owned me (again). Now it wouldn't be that bad if it were only RA ID, but when they're mixing... its ridiculous.
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Dec 25, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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#27
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!
Guild: looking for one :p
Profession: A/D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thilarin
obviously they arent IDIOTS if they beat you and....its RANDOM arena...shit happens
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exacly, ra is just a little test area for new builds and mabay a bit of faction earning one loss against a pre set squad isnt going to harm you that much right?
its just turned 12:00 gmt btw so MERRY CHRISTMAS
Last edited by Diddy bow; Dec 25, 2006 at 12:04 AM // 00:04..
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Dec 25, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12
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#28
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shantel Span
It's pretty easy to do that in International district where *the number of players is relatively low*
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Yup, its a snap. Of course AN claimed to have fixed this some time ago, of course the "fix: lasted like 4 seconds so its back to exploiting. Such a pitty the RA is still the only option for casual PvP players I mean think about it.... almost 2 years GW has been round and no new modes, no new features to pvp, its all recycled 4v4 maps and nerfs. Shameful.
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Dec 25, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: UK
Profession: W/
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Who cares ?
Its RA
Oh and to the OP stop being so arrogant to everyone and to the comment
"if i play in home districts i get paired up with 3 ignorant idiots"
GO DO TA!
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Dec 25, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15
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#30
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Profession: Rt/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
This thread will be closed.
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I hope so as the orginal poster really had no point.
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Dec 25, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37
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#31
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Forge Runner
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How exactly does saying "this thread will be closed" contribute to anything? Seems way more useless than the original post. Go and be proud of yourselves.
Giving a player an NOP if the only slots available are on teams with one or more players from the same guild (alliance?) seems like a way to fix it. Sure, XoO might suffer, but it's all for the greater good :P
Although it still doesn't prevent friends from different guilds joining the same team.
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Dec 25, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42
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#32
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bellevue, WA
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by Alleji
How exactly does saying "this thread will be closed" contribute to anything? Seems way more useless than the original post. Go and be proud of yourselves.
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They do it to feel good about themselves and fit in and gain acceptance with similar whiners. They're the same sort of sycophant you often see here who, when they see a screenshot complimenting someone for doing a good deed, generate a large volume of posts crying like little teacher's pets that the praised person's name wasn't blacked out.
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Dec 25, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52
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#33
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: In front of my PC
Guild: Kai
Profession: E/Mo
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Oh look a pvper moaning AS USUAL what a shock.
1) THIS IS NOT A PVP GAME IT NEVER WAS, IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE.
2) WHO THE *&*&^*ING HELL CARES ABOUT something this IS NOT an exploit. An exploit is a bug that gives someone an unfair advantage. Since this is NOT a bug and gives NO ONE an unfair advantage. Go moan somewhere else.
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Dec 25, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21
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#34
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Oh look a pvper moaning AS USUAL what a shock.
1) THIS IS NOT A PVP GAME IT NEVER WAS, IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE.
2) WHO THE *&*&^*ING HELL CARES ABOUT something this IS NOT an exploit. An exploit is a bug that gives someone an unfair advantage. Since this is NOT a bug and gives NO ONE an unfair advantage. Go moan somewhere else.
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Everything is wrong about this post.
1) Actually, PvE'rs moan the most, after all this game is mostly pvers anyway.
2) Actually, this is a PvP game, it always was, and it always will be, in all ways of the game. I mean look at it, everything is skill based and balanced, so how can that not be pvp based first of all?
3) Who cares that this is a pvp exploit? People who play pvp, the real skilled players (yes this is controversial to some but that is only for the people who aren't good enough to pvp and play the pve arguement) of this game, because pvp is what this game revolves around, like it should.
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Dec 25, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24
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#35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Guild: Tribo dos Reis [TdR]
Profession: R/
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Hmm, excuse me.
There is a view point you all haven't taken a look at.
Newbies to PvP (not noobs, I mean the real beginners) can't access TA or HA until they've unlocked them, so they HAVE to play RA, for improving their own player skill and acquiring Balthazar faction (remember, PvP is completely unlinked to PvE, one player may decide to start playing GW just for its PvP).
Think of it, you are a beginner on this game, maybe using a trial key and you end up playing against people with a similar tag in the end of their character names which with the least common sense will notice it's the same guild tag. This will cause an incredibly negative impression for you, the beginner.
Plus, there is a title called Gladiator which can be easily farmed with this exploit. You may not give a sh** to a title, but it increases your Balthazar faction cap, and it's a title, a way to show your acomplishments. There are people struggling in RA with random people and in TA with guild groups to get this title, and others are just exploiting the system, yes it's an exploit, you get an obviously unfair advantage by playing with a non-random team (hey, isn't this place called Random Arenas?).
The OP was poorly written if the intention was to get a fix for this exploit. What you made was only inviting people to flame you.
Besides fansite forums, you could have sent a report to ANet's support, you know, they have a priority list and chances are the sooner you report a bug the sooner it will eventually get fixed. I really don't know how ANet couldn't have noticed this flaw on the matchmaking system yet, or if they did notice, why they haven't fixed it. Please don't give a poor excuse saying it's hard to be done, because it IS done, and a lot of exploited gladiator points have been awarded already by this exploit, plus the negative impressions on random teams playing against this non-random team.
My post is not intended to be a flame or anything negative. I'm interested in seeing this exploit fixed as much as anyone wanted (including me) to see HA as it is now, no longer 6v6 "Heroway Battles".
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Dec 25, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29
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#36
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: In front of my PC
Guild: Kai
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
Everything is wrong about this post.
1) Actually, PvE'rs moan the most, after all this game is mostly pvers anyway.
2) Actually, this is a PvP game, it always was, and it always will be, in all ways of the game. I mean look at it, everything is skill based and balanced, so how can that not be pvp based first of all?
3) Who cares that this is a pvp exploit? People who play pvp, the real skilled players (yes this is controversial to some but that is only for the people who aren't good enough to pvp and play the pve arguement) of this game, because pvp is what this game revolves around, like it should.
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Sigh. Could you conterdict your self more in one post I think not.
If this game has a majority of pvers as you say, there must be something for them to do otherwise they would'nt play here. So therefore this MUST be a PVE game. IF one of the founders of ANET says this was designed as a PVE game but they added pvp to it for something to do after you have finished the MAIN IE PVE part of the game then thats what it is.
1) pvpers do NOTHING BUT moan. Be it that so and so skill is unbalanced and must be nefred or about some exploit that DOES NOT EXIST. it ALLWAYS something.
2) Try again this HAS NEVER BEEN JUST A PVP GAME AND NEVER WILL BE. The games revolves around what the VAST majority of the people playing this game DO. IE PVE.
3) Right so just becasuse its skill based and balanced it must be a pvp game. What makes you think that. Oh wait a min of course you did'nt think or can't as if you HAD, you would of seen how stupid that statement was.
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Dec 25, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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#37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericdanie
Hmm, excuse me.
There is a view point you all haven't taken a look at.
Newbies to PvP (not noobs, I mean the real beginners) can't access TA or HA until they've unlocked them, so they HAVE to play RA, for improving their own player skill and acquiring Balthazar faction (remember, PvP is completely unlinked to PvE, one player may decide to start playing GW just for its PvP).
Think of it, you are a beginner on this game, maybe using a trial key and you end up playing against people with a similar tag in the end of their character names which with the least common sense will notice it's the same guild tag. This will cause an incredibly negative impression for you, the beginner.
Plus, there is a title called Gladiator which can be easily farmed with this exploit. You may not give a sh** to a title, but it increases your Balthazar faction cap, and it's a title, a way to show your acomplishments. There are people struggling in RA with random people and in TA with guild groups to get this title, and others are just exploiting the system, yes it's an exploit, you get an obviously unfair advantage by playing with a non-random team (hey, isn't this place called Random Arenas?).
The OP was poorly written if the intention was to get a fix for this exploit. What you made was only inviting people to flame you.
Besides fansite forums, you could have sent a report to ANet's support, you know, they have a priority list and chances are the sooner you report a bug the sooner it will eventually get fixed. I really don't know how ANet couldn't have noticed this flaw on the matchmaking system yet, or if they did notice, why they haven't fixed it. Please don't give a poor excuse saying it's hard to be done, because it IS done, and a lot of exploited gladiator points have been awarded already by this exploit, plus the negative impressions on random teams playing against this non-random team.
My post is not intended to be a flame or anything negative. I'm interested in seeing this exploit fixed as much as anyone wanted (including me) to see HA as it is now, no longer 6v6 "Heroway Battles".
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Well said mate.
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Dec 25, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59
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#38
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: in the pits of a shadowy depth
Guild: central guild alliance
Profession: W/Mo
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whoa getting paired with 3 ignorant idiots O.o im sorry but i go to ra to test builds .. builds that well somtimes fail horribly .. with out ra ta ha and gvg would look rediculous ^_^ why rasnt and bash on people who creat half the builds you find on the sites these day's ? hey you never know one of these people you have bashed could have made the next build you go and try .. so i say to you if you can't handle the kitchen get out ^_^
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Dec 25, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26
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#39
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/N
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shard the wannabe iwayer
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Dec 25, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41
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#40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Sigh. Could you conterdict your self more in one post I think not.
If this game has a majority of pvers as you say, there must be something for them to do otherwise they would'nt play here. So therefore this MUST be a PVE game. IF one of the founders of ANET says this was designed as a PVE game but they added pvp to it for something to do after you have finished the MAIN IE PVE part of the game then thats what it is.
1) pvpers do NOTHING BUT moan. Be it that so and so skill is unbalanced and must be nefred or about some exploit that DOES NOT EXIST. it ALLWAYS something.
2) Try again this HAS NEVER BEEN JUST A PVP GAME AND NEVER WILL BE. The games revolves around what the VAST majority of the people playing this game DO. IE PVE.
3) Right so just becasuse its skill based and balanced it must be a pvp game. What makes you think that. Oh wait a min of course you did'nt think or can't as if you HAD, you would of seen how stupid that statement was.
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LOL!! I don't care or know who moan the most. But this game is aiming more at the PvPers! For example, the 3 ascension missions in proph are somewhat training you for PvP. And as the other poster already said, most skill balanced that was done are mainly aiming at balancing the PvP aspects of the game. I agree that vast majority of people are playing PvE though, but that's only because they haven't try PvP yet(and don't know how fun it is, not to say that PvE is not fun though because it can be) or that they sucks at it. Main point is the game is more toward PvP then PvE.
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